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Glue reunited family in November 5, 2014
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Host Drew Pinsky: Tonight, a mother is accused of throwing her autistic son off the bridge and killing him.
Unidentified male: She said she heard 6-year-
Husband in the water
Now, the blogger of "mom" is on suicide watch.
And the sexual controversy at Harvard.
Students taking anal sex courses. We will explain.
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Good evening everyone.
My colleague and I are here.
Host Schacher Samantha.
What we're reporting isyear-
The old mother was charged with murder after the police said she threw 6-year-
An old son with autism came down the bridge and she called the police 911 herself. Take a look. (
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We have the possibility of water rescue.
Unidentified male reporter: The accused mother, Gillian McKay, appeared in court for the first time 18 hours ago, with a bail of $1 million.
Rescue workers in 34-year-
The old man called 911 and reported that she had brought 6-year-
The old boy went to the middle of the bridge and threw him from the side into the cold water below.
She threw her son off the bridge.
She said she heard a 6-year-
The old man in the water, she can't handle it.
Unidentified male journalist: mckeb describes the voice her son heard when he died.
Unidentified male: Miss McCabe, it's very important that you don't talk to anyone about the case.
Unidentified male reporter: McKay was almost silent during the video trial. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Pinsky: very sad.
Some of the photos came from Facebook.
Join us Vanessa Barnet from hiphollywood.
Social commentator Leeann tweetden hosted the Tomboys podcast for black radio ".
Kelvin Washington, social commentator and radio host
Sam, what can we do now?
Samantha SCHACHER, HLN host: Dr.
Drew, such a heartbreaking and disturbing story.
But the Aquina Bay Bridge is down 133 feet from Newport, Oregon. OK. The 6-year-
The old body had been in the water for four hours before he was found.
Gillian's family says she has a mental illness.
Gillian's husband was also diagnosed with multiple hardening and was unable to work.
Their marriage was at one point tense, but it seems to be male in recent circumstances.
Pinsky: about a year ago, her mother, Geely Ann, sat down and Joey McKay, was interviewed about her difficulties.
It was posted on YouTube.
Let's take a look. (
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Gillian mckabby, London's mother: I lost too much.
But I held it together.
I have a son with severe autism and I have been very sad for years.
Now I have a slightly disabled, amazing husband and I feel lonely and I suddenly feel like I am the caregiver and I don't feel like I am a complete person. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Pinsky: Vanessa, I think that interview is a bit confusing.
The whole situation is also chaotic.
Vanessa barnett, social commentator: Well, this is very confusing.
Because first there is no reason to kill your child.
I know we talked about mental illness all the time.
Normally I'm not the one who will feel it still needs to define so many.
But we know she is. -
She recorded mental illness.
They really explored so many options that she hit a few doors on her face.
She sought public and private assistance.
They tried to put her in the facility.
They were patient. they refused. -
They had to let her go because the temporary inpatient would not take her.
So she's really trying--
Pinsky: I'm going to tell you Vanessa, we have to figure out what mental health issues this is.
But other than that, I don't-
We will depreciate further.
But I would bet that the resources provided to her were somewhat limited due to lack of insurance or state funding or other reasons.
Li An, you are nodding your head. do you agree?
LEEANN tweetden, social commentator: Well, I mean, Dr.
Drew, you never killed your child.
Sorry, you know my best friend Danni, you have finished our podcast and she has an autistic son, she loves the boy more than anything in the world. she wants to kill him.
They always have other options.
You see, everyone has to face difficulties.
My best friend has breast cancer and her daughter has just had leukemia but you don't want to kill yourself or your child.
It's just not an option.
I would like to read the statement in "autism self-promotion network" about the death of Linda mckabee.
"We urge the media to remember how culpable it is for parents or caregivers to kill their children and to avoid treating the murder of children as a family burden.
"Never make excuses to kill your child because you are hard or stressed. Never an excuse.
Barnett: But you can't ignore the fact that she has mental health problems.
We don't even know.
Pinsky: We will discuss it.
This is a key part of the story.
You know, I agree with you.
Sam, do you agree?
I agree with Vanessa.
Look, when I first heard the story, Ang Lee, I'm with you, right.
We just saw a tweet. someone said someone threw it. -
Throw her, this mother, off the bridge.
I think so too.
Then, when I looked at her background story, I saw that she might have a mental illness and was driven out of treatment or discharged from the hospital with a number of different treatment centers and her family--PINSKY:Yes. Or left. Or left. (CROSSTALK)
SCHACHER: Wait a minute.
But if so, what a good example, a terrible example, not how important it is ---
We have better mental health resources in this country.
Pinsky: Absolutely--
Sam, you're singing for the choir.
But I don't think there will be these in Kelvin, do you?
Kelvin Washington, a social commentator: Well, you know what an interesting point people are making.
Sam has just come up with a good idea that there needs to be more mental health awareness and more funding.
But I find it very strange. One thing that makes me very strange is where is this family? -
It's not that they're guilty, it's where they are--
They know she has some challenges.
SCHACHER: Thank you.
Washington: Don't the family want to jump in?
When she said I would sometimes think of doing Thelma and Louise, we all know what that means and drive off the cliff. SCHACHER:Yes. PINSKY:Yes.
Washington: that's a signal.
That's what she said when she closed the door and built a car. that's what she said publicly. SCHACHER:Right.
Washington: So I'm a little worried that maybe there's nothing to take care of and give her time to recover.
Barnett: it's their family. (CROSSTALK)
You 'd better hold on. Let me --let me --
Vanessa, I want to read one of them to you and I think one of the family members reported her mental health issues.
They didn't specify what they were, but they did say the quote "very bad" that she should have been sent to state hospital, which means something very serious, chronic thinking problems like mental division.
She should be there for six months.
She ended up living in a residential facility but was discharged early.
This is the part that people need to pay attention. If --
Everyone is out there and she hasn't been treated for months.
Anyone, if you're in--
In chronic or any type of institution, you are told by a professional that you need more care, that you will not have any care, or that you have a hearing to get yourself out of that care, it will get very bad.
And family, you have to get a consular ship (ph)
You have to do what you can to deal with these situations.
A large part of mental illness is lack of insight and lack of awareness of your problems.
So every decision you make is affected by the brain.
So you can't let someone do it yourself or their children ---Vanessa.
Most importantly, these families are not educated.
Some people look at the person, she looks better, maybe she is better.
They don't know there's more going on in her head.
They don't know how to help.
They don't know--(CROSSTALK)Tweetden: come on.
The family admitted they knew she had a problem. (CROSSTALK)
If your husband is diagnosed with M. S.
High, full pressure, maybe they go--
Let's take the boy.
Let's fix it for you.
Where is the family?
Where is the community? PINSKY:Kelvin.
Washington: do we question any motives for the video she recently released, in a way to get something so that if this tragedy happens, she may defend the madness.
That's what she can do. -
Because we can all say, you know her. -
I tell you, she likes this kind of attention.
First of all, Kelvin, thank you for being Ivy League. -ivy tonight.
Kelvin's role this evening.
I appreciate it.
Every situation is looking for a center. It`s OK.
But look, when you--
These are difficult and challenging situations.
Now we have more victims. We really do.
SCHACHER: Thank you.
We should not blame them.
The victim was the child.
Let's not forget that.
Absolutely.
Of course. PINSKY:Next.
I have learned more about this tragic story.
The diagnosis of the boy, the problem of the father, the influence of all this, the behavior Bureau is here.
Later, a woman offered her husband a "gift of sex ".
She gave him relatives every day for a year.
Yes, we will report after that. (
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Unidentified male journalist: The accused mother, Gillian mckabee, described the voice heard when his son died.
I take care of my son London and Matt full time.
Fortunately, we were accepting unemployment when Matt was fired.
I am applying for any help available.
I need your help.
I love my husband who has been taking care of myself and my son for years and now is the time for me to take the helm.
I'm scared. I'm reaching out.
I hope I will not be considered rubbish or reactionary.
I must now explore various ways to take care of my family. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Pinsky: go back with Sam.
We're talking about mother, so-
Accused of murder.
Police say she's six-year-
Autistic old man on the bridgeVery sad story.
Let's bring the bureau in.
Clinical psychologist, Judy he, professor at the University of peperding.
American spirit of Erika
TV host, therapist
Wendy Walsh, psychologist, 30-Day Love Detox.
"I want to show you something.
I interviewed Sheila Shea, a six-dollar mom. year-
The son is dead.
Sheila was mentally ill, heard a voice, and was eventually found guilty of mental disorder.
But I want you to know how this happened. Watch this. (
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Mother Sheila Shea: I think if--
If I kill my kids and kill myself then no one will hurt them.
I think at least I will be kind. (END VIDEO CLIP)
You have a mom, Judy, so-
Call her and she is mentally ill, thinking that she killed her son and saved her child from some sort of paranoid illusion.
She's going to kill everyone, including herself.
Is this probably the same thing?
Judy he, clinical psychologist and professor at peperding University: I don't think so, doctor. Drew.
I think we have some leads that can point to other things that happen in this case.
I think it's one of them. -
One of them was the mother's desperation over the overwhelming responsibility to take care of two disabled people in the family.
Pinsky: there is a lot of pressure and a lot of pressure. HO:Absolutely. PINSKY:OK. All right. And what else?
Mr. Hu: this is number one.
The second is all the clues.
Let her try to get resources and have problems with that.
Multiple records show that she was exposed to both private and public sources of mental health care and financial care, but she was all rejected.
Pinsky: Well, look--that --
I doubt it.
Wendy, I am worried about a, there is not enough resources, but I am also worried that people are not using the resources there.
I mean, she went to a cheering site and they were in peace talks about the crowd sharing the financial site. Right Sam?
She tried to raise money there.
Of course, Oregon has no mental health resources.
Well, she's going to the University of California.
And asked for $50,000.
Because I remember her husband because she--
Pinsky: but they have a hard life.
Then he had M. S.
Someone is taking care of him.
Well, she was--
She thinks she needs help. -
But no, I understand--
I know, but Wendy, do you know what I got here?
I mean she didn't use the system she liked.
Dr. Wendy Walsh. D.
Psychologist: she did not use the system
Because she doesn't even have the ability to understand the system and to use it.
This is a woman with mental illness.
I tell you, I have a PhD. D.
I worked very hard to get services from my daughter, which is a bit in the spectrum.
I almost died to figure out the system, okay.
You go there. Yes. PINSKY:OK.
Walsh: So, imagine that a person with mental illness may not have the resources or education to take advantage of the services there.
But she knows about crowdfunding because it works for her.
Pinsky: Well, because it's a social media thing.
People talk about this, but they don't talk about this complexity or bureaucracy of the mental health system.
You all look fun, Erica, but Erica, especially you.
Moderator and therapist erica america: Yes, I think this is actually a kind, loyal mother who is really trying her best to deal with the increasing stress between her husband and her son.
When she reached out, she even said on YouTube that she had committed suicide.
Everyone tried to help her.
Unfortunately, it did not succeed.
I think she has become mentally ill, and you know she has the illusion, the illusion, the voice, and what she is doing is like the interview you are showing, and that's it. PINSKY:But --right.
She threw him away because--
Do I think she did it on purpose?
Of course, is she guilty of doing this?
Yes, it was terrible, but I think she was crazy at the time.
But Judy, you're going to say, yes, that's because--
I mean, don't you think we're under pressure? -HO:Yes.
Pinsky: you end up with some sort of mental state of mind.
My other question is, does everyone know what a suicide vest is? They said --
They said she was wearing a suicide vest.
I don't even know what that is.
Do you know?
No, this is strange.
Pinsky: It's strange.
Judy, you shake your head about Erica's psychiatric theory. HO:Yes.
I don't think it's necessary.
There's a vest.
HO: they're playing here and I think the stress she's going through can make her so eager to get rid of something she can't deal with anymore, right?
Pinsky: Well, that's too little. -Sam.
That's her baby.
SCHACHER: It's a terrible thing. (CROSSTALK)My God. OK.
So, ask the panel, do you know that the mentality of asking for help is appropriate if she is suffering from hallucination and delusion?
Or you rely entirely on the people around you. (CROSSTALK)PINSKY:Look.
I think Wendy makes a lot of sense.
I hate the bureaucracy of the government.
Wendy, I pay tribute to you for trying to work.
But I can't imagine it's almost impossible if you're sick. SCHACHER:Right. WALSH:Yes.
This is very, very impossible for me.
It took me two years.
Drew fought the system and was rejected.
I have wisdom and availability, which is very difficult.
So my heart broke for this woman and I felt like we all failed her a bit. (CROSSTALK)
Pinsky: now, Matt's husband has written an article about marriage and the challenge of having an autistic son and his multiple hardening diagnosis, it is an automatic immune attack on certain parts of the brain.
Everyone saw him express his feelings on social media.
This is his blog.
Quote "some of you know that some people don't know, Geely and I are separated now. Life happens.
We are still together, but separated.
It's difficult, but life is unique. "Right, Sam? I don`t, I ---
My only question, doctor.
Drew, in all this, if the family knew and believed me, I didn't want to bash the family because they did try to help her get some treatment after the research I saw.
They tried it. Yes.
SCHACHER: But why would she allow custody of the child if they knew she was suffering?
This is a big problem.
SCHACHER: where did the father come in from in all this?
Pinsky: this is--
For anyone trying to understand at home, there are two messages to take home.
Everyone was killed by stigma.
Shame brought about by mental illness.
It really hurts people if you can't stand up and say I'm suffering from mental illness and I need help.
Or, if you go to an agency, I really don't want to stare at you because I don't need this, and that's the response to shame.
This is the first.
Second, there are actually three points. it's hard to get resources, especially my mental health.
People don't seem to understand--
How dangerous these conditions are.
Finally, if you do get the resources and you have a professional team to advise you, listen to the letter they told you.
Don't just cut corners and think you know better.
It will end in a disaster.
Next, we have an activity called Sex Week at Harvard University.
This is a controversy on campus.
Yes, everyone has a course on anal sex.
This has caused quite a lot of controversy.
Later, gifts were given continuously.
A couple, one who prepared a surprise birthday present for her husband.
Knot, or no knot, or continue to knot, or whatever. (
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Pinsky: back to Sam, Vanessa, Ang Lee and Kelvin.
This is the most popular story on Weibo tonight.
Sex Week at Harvard University
Courses and seminars are offered by student groups, involving Kinkynacy (ph)
Close relationship.
Okay, Sam, what is this? --
Sorry to be Greg Bre (ph)--
What is the syllabus for this week?
Okay, doctor. Drew.
Let's see, the brown girl did a good job.
A weird expat mix, sexy, I know, lost your virginity concept, exotic jungle mania, 50 false tangles, fantasies, fetishism and love, web culture.
PINSKY: then we caught the eye of our product, which is 101 anal sex.
Here is a reproduction of the description of the class. Here you go. (
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Unidentified women: learn everything about anal sex from good vibration experts
The shop is located in Brookline.
They eliminate the myth about anal sex and let you know why people do it and how to do it well.
They will cover a wide range of topics, including anal anatomy and happy potential for all genders, how to talk to a partner, basic preparation and hygiene, breasts, anal toys, safer sex, anal penetration for beginners and more people.
Learn the fact that this exciting but often misunderstood form of happiness.
Find out the common mistakes people make and answer all your questions. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Pinsky: this is a repeat.
I really don't know what to say. -Vanessa. (LAUGHTER)
Barnett: First of all, the thing on the ass is actually a song.
It should be nominated by the Grammy, or something it can hide.
I think I have to give it to you.
Pinsky: Okay. We`re good.
Okay, thank you.
I don't understand, but I do. (CROSSTALK)
Barnett: Secondly, I am very satisfied with this matter. I love this.
Pinsky: are you on the boat too? BARNETT:I am.
Since I still like that sex education needs to be improved and just changed, I hope you ---
Unfortunately, or fortunately, you have to keep a Jones and Jones.
I just wanted to apologize to my grandmother because it was her birthday and I knew she was watching.
I'm sorry for this conversation.
But you see, if you don't want to know about anal sex, it's easy not to sign up for the course.
But there is a simple fact that there is a course that allows us to know that people are curious and they want to know more and they want to explore more. PINSKY:But--all right.
Let me ask Lee, we--
Is Harvard going to put this up?
Can't they go online to all kinds of places?
Tweetden: Thank you.
Or they can't go. -that store --the sex store?
They will definitely hold a symposium. TWEEDEN:OK.
First of all, the world's best and brightest Harvard and Ivy League are teaching at Harvard.
You tell me, when we were young, we became young scholars,INAUDIBLE)
Need to have anal lessons on lubricants and toys and what do they need to do?
I think Harvard needs to worry about educating students.
They are not educated in sex education.
Let's face it. These are children. they are all online.
I'm sure it's not the first time they look it up, curious about it, look it up on Google, or look it up on YouTube.
Why did Harvard do this? PINSKY:Sam. SCHACHER:OK.
Pinsky: That's right.
This is my problem.
I 'd rather receive it--
But Harvard is--
This is an educational institution.
Not--
Anal education?
But Sam--
I 'd rather them--
Let me finish my presentation.
I 'd rather let them know how to do anal sex safely than look it up on Google. Drew.
Look, does everyone have all sorts of different types of sex?
I'm not talking about single people or opposite sex partners alone. What about the same? sex couples.
If they are interested in doing so in a very safe and responsible way, why can't they go and why can't they be educated?
Thank God, my parents have a net. PINSKY:But --
Kelvin, Kelvin has--
Harvard has one of the nation's top medical schools.
They go to the bigger balloon hospital and they can get professionals in and give them all the clinical background training to help them really and deeply understand the underlying issues.
Tweetden: Thank you. (CROSSTALK)
I agree with that. WASHINGTON:Yes.
Well, you know, for Sam, for everyone on his own.
Some people, that's what they do.
I will not be an expert on this particular topic. But --(CROSSTALK)
Washington: You know education is always a good thing, I say.
However, as far as Ang Lee is concerned, we can do more work in Harvard education.
We can cure the Ebola virus, we can help the economy now, we can do a lot of other better things in Harvard education.
I know young people, you need to understand how to be happy-
Enjoy the pleasant things.
But it must be a bit--
I'm with Kelvin.
Vanessa still has her own way to go on this issue. (CROSSTALK)Pinsky: continue.
Barnett: If you want to learn, you have to learn from the best people.
Outside Harvard. -(CROSSTALK)
Pinsky: Vanessa, I'm going to talk to a student wearing this in a second.
This is my serious concern about this because it is not supervised by health professionals.
We will talk to her about how she handled the dispute.
Later, a year of daily sex.
Investigate on our Facebook page
DrewHLN, whether or not every day is a good thing.
Will you do that?
We have spouses who do this. Come back after this. (
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Unidentified woman: 50 color leave.
Kinks, fantasies, and fetishes, we will explore the so-called taboo topic of sex, that is, Kindles.
Munch, Harvard's kink and alternative groups, will showcase kink through the 50 most popular gray lenses of all time.
This demo will try to expose and correct the inaccuracies of kink and the description of the box. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Pinsky: Oh, I hope they are more than just inaccurate and tangled because that book is causing me a lot of problems.
But, of course, it's a re-enactment.
Back to Sam and our Bureau of conduct, Judy, Erica and Wendy.
This is one of the many courses offered by Harvard's annual week.
Another class that caused controversy, which we discussed in the last part-
According to Vanessa, "What, what's on the ass in this song. "Anal sex 101. (LAUGHTER)
Now, Wendy, I want-
Again, I'm going to talk to the women who organized this event, and what I'm worried about is that I don't know if it's supervised by student health or blocked --
Or introduced by health professionals.
Wendy Walsh: I agree with you, Dr. Drew.
I think it's great to use sexy, exciting headlines because it attracts these young people.
If they want to call it "50 degree Gray", I call it "50 degree abuse", or "what, what's on the ass", in any case, in order for them to show up, then slide on education and good medical knowledge, which they can of course do.
Pinsky: Erica, will you go to such an event when you are in college? AMERICA:OK.
Yes, well, in the last paragraph, I just found out that Harvard did not really manage the program.
So my point of view has changed a bit.
But before I see this, I would like to thank Nikki Mina, Kim Kardashian, who is all about loot these days.
People are talking about it, people are talking about anal sex, why not talk about it in an educational way in a prestigious place like Harvard.
I don't think it's a problem. .
Pinsky: But Erica, would you go to these classes if you were in college? (LAUGHTER)
America: Yes, I think I will, I think I just want to know because I don't know anything about it. So, yeah . (CROSSTALK)
America: I 'd rather-
Like some people say Google
I won't believe it.
I believe in Harvard. PINSKY:Wendy?
Walsh: Harvard wants to make sure tomorrow's world leaders reach their full potential without intestinal perforation. PINSKY:Well .
America: you go there.
Pinsky: Again, I don't want to get into a specific field.
I'm not sure where to go.
But everyone is a real person.
You're a doctor. You -
People who make love.
Pinsky: I know, I'm thinking about the blood supply in this area and what you guys need --
What people need to know.
But it's not like-
Cause perforation
Judy, handle it for me. HO:OK.
Well, I think it's great to be at Harvard because they are actually premiere agencies that can do that. But it is -that`s -
But this does not involve healthcare professionals.
They do. PINSKY:And -
Not only is it healthcare professionals, Judy, but there's a lot more about this, and it's about the experience of relationships.
I mean, you guys should pay special attention to this as a mental health professional.
This is an opportunity to talk about these nuances and difficulties and why people do something --
How can people re-
I was scarred by these experiences.
He: That's right. PINSKY:Sam? But doctor.
Drew, if what is the course and what is led by healthcare professionals, will you look at this in a different way? PINSKY:I would.
Fair enough.
Pinsky: That's why-
That's why I asked Kirin Gupta that she was a junior at Harvard and she was
The founder of the group that organized the event.
Karen, you have-who -
I have a lot of problems to ask
I am confused about many things.
Who taught these courses? Keeling Gupta
Harvard Sex Week organizer: OK.
So this course is actually run by a healthcare professional, and it happens to be-
Good Vibration from sex education. PINSKY:Hold on. Hold on.
Because there's a huge difference here.
Between health educators and clinical-trained professionals.
Something completely different.
So here you have a health educator jumping in and you don't understand that this is someone who has any clinical experience.
But go ahead, is this received, is it controversial, is it going well?
Gupta: So Sex Week is a week. Long initiative.
The first is a group led by clinicians in the health services department of the university.
Pinsky: that's even better.
Gupta: that's-that`s sex-ed workshop.
So, that's-
This is like an introduction --(INAUDIBLE)
We will discuss NCC and the form of sex in a week. PINSKY:OK.
Your clinical team is here. So, they . . .
I have a question.
Wendy, what do you say?
Walsh: Well, you know, there's a lot of emphasis on increasing sexual desire, frequent sex and all sorts of sex.
Do you also cover those who are trying to practice a virgin or sexual act?
Is this supposed to be morbid or do you teach it as well?
Good question.
Gupta: The Second workshop after the first one
I am a virgin and an abstinence workshop for clinicians.
It started Monday night. AMERICA:Great.
Gupta: So, that seminar.
Erica, you have--
Sorry, I am looking at our group and they will respond to you when you speak --
Erica, you seem a little disgusted with this.
What are you thinking?
Or you look like this. Maybe I was wrong.
No, hate?
Well, you look a little bit.
America: No, no, I just-
I just thought it was interesting.
I just think they did a good job-
You know, I just-I was -
I thought it was all the responsibility of health professionals.
So I will do a little bit more on that.
But I think what she said also makes sense, and I think they offer a wide variety of anal sex and virginity. Yes. PINSKY:Judy?
Walsh: That's the scope. PINSKY:Judy?
I just wanted to say it was really great.
You use it with it.
Apps like bidding
Because then you can be like-minded in your abstinence or sexual approach. (LAUGHTER)
Pinsky: Again, we are moving into areas where I am not sure about this good territory.
Walsh: Wait, what about a virgin with anal sex?
That's why they did it. AMERICA:Oh, no. (CROSSTALK)
But you know what?
But you know what, Kirin, let me ask you, this is--
You know, I talked to many young people over the years.
Specific people have a specific religious orientation and will keep their virginity for this kind of behavior, which is really problematic.
Did you say all this?
Gupta: OK, what we do, we know we talk about sex and sex. INAUDIBLE). Initiative. And I do -
I want to make it clear.
We do have a lot of clinicians involved. We have (INAUDIBLE)
Who come and talk to us, they always have you (INAUDIBLE)
Working with us, we work with our university health services. (INAUDIBLE)GUPTA:Sexual -
Engaged in sexual assault and violence prevention.
We work in different places. (INAUDIBLE)
Then adult service.
Okay, I feel-
I feel like it's just FYU, I just-
I feel much better about the whole thing if I can say.
So do I.
Walsh: It sounds very positive.
PINSKY: Not only is sex positive, but nuances are also being explored and clinical reality is being explored.
Once again, the invasion and sexual assault of women on campus is so great. Now, you can't.
In fact, you are in this situation again.
However, my question to you is, what kind of criticism have you received and how have you responded?
Gupta: So, we 've been responding to a lot of criticism when we came in, because I think it's very unique and focused on the idea that the docking workshop is the only Workshop-and being -
The only lesson, people don't think that Harvard Sex Week is a whole business, but teach --
There is this weekend.
We invited different discussions on different forms of sexual decision-making, andhave respect -
Come here to open up conversations, sex and intimacy on our campus and talk about sex and sexuality in a way that tolerates any type of sexual decision making, and what (INAUDIBLE)
Came here to open up conversations about sex, sex, and intimate behavior on our campus, and to talk about sex and sexuality in a way that forgives any kind of sexual decision-making, but just stressed that all of this needs to be done with consent, and it doesn't matter if you have a sexual partner and if you don't have a sexual partner.
But all of this needs to be done by consensus. PINSKY:Erica?
We are all constantly working. AMERICA:Yeah. GUPTA:About -and .
No, Kirin, you're awesome. You're so good-
Everything is smart to say, but come on, you call-
You know people will like it-
Armed with the name, "What, what's on the ass?
"It may just be called anal sex.
I think one can even get-
What, what's on the ass?
So, like I think you guys know it's going to get a lot of attention, kind of call it.
Pinsky: I kind-fall that -
In terms of getting attention.
But maybe they have
You know, I want to get the kids in. SCHACHER:Yes.
Pinsky: You know, do something provocative to keep this discussion going. What do you say?
Gupta: Sure. Absolutely.
I 'd say we-
There must be something very deliberately provocative about sex week, because we do want to bring people into the house, we want to bring people into the room, and we want people to talk about it excitedly, don't be shy about talking about sex and sex.
Because what I think is the worst
One of the things I worry about most about college campuses is sex, it's just being talked about in a shameful way.
People go out and look for it online or at dark places or parties.
This is a lot of sexual assault happening in our camp.
A lot of sexual violence is happening and people are reluctant to have a frank and open discussion about why it happens. PINSKY:Sam.
Gupta: I don't want the students in our school park to get all the information about anal sex from the virus. CROSSTALK)
Keeling. PINSKY:Right. Right. Right.
It's important that I agree with you.
Kirin, what is the reaction of the student's body, are they involved in the sexual week?
Gupta: So I haveI have though --
I went to the workshop yesterday.
For me, it was really fascinating to see the entire hockey team and the entire professional student in the same room --
A group of people on our campusSCHACHER:Wow.
Gupta: I don't think I 've ever seen these two organizations in the same room. (LAUGHTER)
Pinsky: OK, that's good.
Okay, listen.
Kirin, thank you for making this clear.
I started with a place that wasn't very happy and I feel so much better about you
The week you organized
So, pay tribute to you.
Next is a new topic about sex and sex.
We have a woman who has had sex with her husband every day for a year.
Why does she think this is the perfect gift for any couple. Come back after this. (
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Unidentified male: Sharla Moore has had sex with her husband every day for a year.
I turned her down if you could believe it.
I'm not sure if she's serious or not.
Think about the impact of what she provides.
Unidentified women: intimacy really slipped away from our priority list.
It's a way, though it's a weird and crazy way, but it's back to the top of the list again.
We average 26 to 28 days a month.
Having sex every day is not a long-term sustainable model, but intimacy is not something that will never happen. (END VIDEO CLIP)
Pinsky: I'm back with Sam, Lee, Kelvin, Emily Morse, sex --
Relationship expert, host of the "fuck Emily" podcast on iTunes.
The woman you just heard, she had a lot of information and questions in her last statement.
She gave her husband 365 days of sex on his 40 th birthday.
Before that, she said they only eat twice a month, and they average at the end of the year-
After the year she gave him, they
Managed to maintain 26 times a month.
26 days in 30 days.
Emily, is this a good model?
She said something interesting, and she said it was difficult to maintain close relationships 365 days a year.
I think she meant emotional intimacy.
Then she said the model, which is such a strange statement, is that the model of 365 days of sex is not necessarily a good model.
Emily Morse, an expert in sex and relations: no, yes-
Yes, I think it will scare a lot of people away. I am thinking -I can`t -
If we can do it once a month, not 365 days, we are lucky.
PINSKY: It sounds bad once a month. (LAUGHTER)(CROSSTALK)
Couples, they put sex in a secondary position.
They don't value intimacy. And people -
Couples need to stay close in a healthy growing relationship, but, they don't realize, you know, kids, they have kids, they have jobs, they have other things --
In their lives, they just thought we would start having sex again.
It's been too long and they're no longer close. it's a disaster.
Pinsky: Well, Emily, just where you said, Lee really responded to that. Like kids -back burner? Oh my god.
Laundry Service. PINSKY:Laundry. (LAUGHTER)
But soon after.
PINSKY: deployment.
He said it was-
Yeah, deployment, not sex, you know.
You were separated by force,.
But that tweet says it sounds like a common gift.
We thought it was interesting. And Dr.
Drew, you and I talked about this before. PINSKY:Yeah.
Sometimes I think, you know, pretend before you succeed.
Sometimes you don't always like it.
You are tired, you are all working hard for a day, you let the children go to bed. You make dinner.
You are really tired, you are really tired, but sometimes you just need to be close to your partner, for both of you.
This is good for your relationship and good for your health. It`s like -
Oh, yes, that's why we have children.
That's why we are.
I'm not saying there are 365 days a year because I don't think it's realistic for any relationship.
But once a month, you're right.
This is also a problem, Drew.
Pinsky: I think
Emily, you said the same thing Leeann said, right?
Morse: I mean, you definitely have to prioritize your intimacy and sex in your relationship.
Because couples, everything else is a priority, children, their lives, their work.
But what people don't realize is that when you don't prioritize intimacy, your relationship crashes because it's the glue to your relationship. PINSKY:Sam?
I agree.
Look, I think it's crucial to have sex in a relationship.
But 365 days.
Drew, how tired.
I mean, can she give me some of her stamina? (LAUGHTER)
Morse: To be honest, there are 28 out of 31.
Pinsky: But Kelvin, Kelvin, how can these women come together to deal with us like this? How dare they?
Kelvin Washington: How dare they?
Sam, I believe you.
I think you can do that. (LAUGHTER)
SCHACHER: 365 days?
Washington: you know.
Sam, you are.
Washington: I think you have that ability.
But I will say that.
Drew, as a residential man on this special panel, on it, Lady! This is --
I'm proud of her. I think -
No, but anyone who has been married or married, they understand that you will be busy.
You know, you do put things in a secondary position.
When you were young, you thought you knew I would never do that, which was amazing.
Sex is so important.
But it did happen.
I appreciate that she said that in doing so, it actually helped them to increase their intimacy in other parts of the relationship, or not only physically, but also between them, which is better
So, I appreciate it, but I think all the women watching this movie should try it out.
Just give it a try. (LAUGHTER)
Washington: There's nothing wrong with trying.
Pinsky: That's right.
Let's start in 30 days. PINSKY:Emily -
I want to say something there, but peopleyou and I -Emily -
Once a week on Loveline, you and I have heard something crazy and people think, oh, the threesome will make things better or I will find him a stripper.
These ideas are terrible.
This is not a terrible idea.
Morse: No, this is-
This is not a terrible idea.
I also want to say that intimacy doesn't just mean that you have a relationship with your partner.
This may mean that you kiss each other again and hold your hand before work, or before going to bed at night.
You massage each other.
It's not necessarily sex. It`s just -
Intimacy means a lot of other things.
Pinsky: it will lead us there. (LAUGHTER)
Morse: hope so!
SCHACHER: Does intimacy mean hugging a coach watching a Lifetime movie? Isn't that counted?
Morse: You know, sometimes it's possible to turn off the TV during that conversation. (LAUGHTER)
Sam, come on, Sam.
I'm joking. (CROSSTALK)
Sam, Sam, I know you need some advice, but Emily will show up after the show. (LAUGHTER)
PINSKY: Next, you will see-with Mark.
That's what you have to do.
Next, what are you talking about, the sex of the model all year round?
Also, our online voting results on our Facebook page. Come back after this. (
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Pinsky: If you do this every day, can you really do it?
I mean, it takes a lot of time, effort, candles and wine to do the right thing.
All kinds of things.
Can you reallyyeah, go ahead?
Woman: I don't agree. PINSKY:OK.
Unidentified women: I mean, I think one of the things we learned in a year, and I think that's what 365 nights reflect, that's true intimacy, you know, it's driven by real life.
Real life doesn't have candles and wine every night.
Sometimes it's a quick thing to lack a better word in real life. (END VIDEO CLIP)
I came back with Sam, Lee, Kelvin, and Emily.
I like how my husband looks at her.
Like You Mean. it was great -you know -
What are you talking about? (CROSSTALK)
Morse: So is quickies, man.
Pinsky: Okay.
So, the question is, can you have sex with yours? (CROSSTALK)
Pinsky: how dare you. (LAUGHTER)
Pinsky: can you have sex with your partner every day of the year?
You can participate in our vote on our Facebook page.
We will give you the final result in the after-sales display on the Facebook page.
Now, almost 60% say no, you can't do it in 365 days.
Sam, what else can you see on social media?
Okay, oh, my God.
I have a lot of interesting things.
Posts and tweets
But from Janet, "after a year, my marriage is over, right? " (LAUGHTER)
SCHACHER: starting with Joy, it will soon become very boring and mechanical.
Pinsky: Well, stop that, because Emily, this is one that a lot of people come up with, how do people avoid it if they work hard?
Morse: it would be great if they were working and they were working.
There are many different ways you can spice up your relationship.
One of the problems and reasons is that people like to put sex in a secondary position because they are bored and in a relationship sex becomes routine.
So try something new and do something different.
Have sex outside the bedroom.
I mean, there are a lot of differences.
PINSKY: go to the course Kirin Gupta at Harvard University. (LAUGHTER)
What do you say, Kelvin?
Morse: so take some classes and do what you can.
People are always surprised that it becomes routine.
Because the first 6 to 12 months of a relationship are so amazing.
I think the only one who suffers, oh my God, is no longer good.
Well, guess what, this happens to every couple who don't like to think sex may need a little work. PINSKY:Kelvin.
Yes.
Washington: What is-
I mean, you.
You just said, spice it up, do something, play a little roll. You know.
Sexy underwear.
Yes, some sexy underwear. Maybe -
Maybe for us guys, we're watching the game, maybe you can. . .
SCHACHER: this is the foreplay. (CROSSTALK)
Washington: Baby, you turn the game off and you said the fourth quarter is here.
I don't know. you do things like this.
Let it begin.
To be honest, I think this is a good idea.
I think everyone should get A for trying this. MORSE:Agreed.
Washington: I don't agree with everyone who says it's boring.
Just give it a try.
Sam, what else did you bring?
Okay, but doctor.
Drew, first of all, will you come out in your clothes and a stethoscope? (CROSSTALK)
Yeah, I'm here again, you
The next one is Sam. (CROSSTALK)
This is the best performance, a very original medical practice.
Well, it's really scary.
This is a role play.
Morse: what's useful?
But Sam, what else do you have?
Okay, I have-
It's definitely Judy's.
Every day for many years, 44 years of marriage. PINSKY:Wow.
SCHACHER: from Michai's point of view, if you eat cake every day, it is no longer a dessert, but a kind of food.
Do you think Michai is male or female, Kelvin?
Washington: Missy is a man who is no longer excited about his wife. I think it`s .
Someone is bitter.
Morse: a party.
Pinsky: Emily, you made me angry about this.
This is a sad thing when people reach this point.
As you said before, what they have to really pay attention to is glue.
Morse: it's glue, if you don't.
Then you're a roommate.
People think-
I think the most important part of the story is that everyone is caught up in 365 days.
What I really think is that this has drawn attention, and I think we are in a crisis, many marriages are in a sexual crisis, and they don't want to see it.
They don't want to see the fact.
This is a good point of view.
Very good view.
Pinsky: That's right.
Get signs of trouble.
But Lee, you just saw your favorite tweet.
Once a day?
My husband and I do it three or four times a day. Oh my gosh.
Morse: I saw it too. TWEEDEN:Wow!
I think you and I both giggled, Sam. SCHACHER:Yes.
Washington: Some
It may be some physical trouble that comes with it. (CROSSTALK)
Wendy told me when he left the room.
Remember that, she said. I said, oh, OK.
Women do need some rest time.
Let's just say that.
Pinsky: you go there.
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